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Do we suspect the intentions of junior sympathizers?

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by A Bisht


Fellow blogger Straight Point raised a valid question:

When someone praises seniors (read Sachin onwards) he/she is treated as a good thinker of the game; is the perception same when someone praises/sympathizes with juniors?
In other words--Do people question the intentions of those who keep on praising the seniors? Like the way they suspect those who sympathize with juniors. What do you say?

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yeah the performing juniors like Virat Kohli :) Nothin wrong in sayin good abt the good juniors.

But the likes of Rohit sharma -- ummm not cos he doesnt perform as SG.

So just cos SG is 36 and RS 23 that doesnt mean the performance criteria differ.

Age doesnt matter, performance does.

Trideep said...

Yes, there is a difference. Coz Indian seniors are considered to be demi-gods. And in India selections have never been based on merit but on past glory.

Gaurav Sethi said...

AB - that's quite an insight. and the cartoon depiction is eerily topical.

in my exp, the pov shared by the print media and most sports channels has a strong senior skew.

most of the news channels tho are highly reactive, even a tad childish - their pro jr shift, at times, even undoes the good work by the Jrs.

look at this way, a lion's share of india's media has climaxed thru the 90s-early 2000s with the seniors. it's tough letting go. and - it's better to burn out, than it is too fade away. but that's rock n roll, not indian cricket.

XYZ said...

First of all, this cartoon just bring the Delhi Encounter on the front of my eyes.

@ Buzzz age matters anyhow in any game. Otherwise 50 year old would have been here.

@ But selection must be based on performance.

What I say is with age performance goes down gradually, so youngsters could be up fronted.

Viswanathan said...

I agree with you Bisht.If anyone questions these out dated heroes, then he is treated to abuse.

Anil Singh said...

Although SP would have been the right person to respond. Even then let I try.

Anil Singh said...

@ Buzz

You are right buzz, age should never be a factor in any player appraisal. Neither in favour of nor against him/her.
The argument that a performing player even at age 40 is better than a non-performing one of 19--has weight to it.

But do answer the question as well, is Indian mind set pro seniors?

Anil Singh said...

@ Trideep

The meteoric rise of Sachin and now Dhoni is a testimony of what you said.

But is Indian mind set pro seniors?

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Anil Singh said...

@ NC

The post idea goes to SP, I just expressed it.
For cartoon :)

Your correlation of growth of Indian media and cricket seems very true.
And this may have resulted in media having soft corner for the players of that era.
But Indian media many a times seems too desperate to tilt the balance to one side or the other.

Anil Singh said...

@ Neno

Generally cartoons take their ideas from contemporary issues/ recent happenings, so that they can connect with the reader. :)

You are right performance should be the sole criterion for selection.

Anil Singh said...

@ Ottayan

So Ottayan can we say Indian mind set pro seniors?

Anil Singh said...

@ Mohan

Welcome to BCC!.Thank you for the motivation.

We'll definitely visit your recommendations. :)

Anonymous said...

Great cartoon! It's interesting that you mention this, AB. I think there is a bit of sociocentrism around the junior/senior supporters. Each side thinks they are victimized. As an unabashed senior supporter (it takes courage to admit that now-a-days), I feel there is lesser empathy for us. We are looked upon at "just another of those mad senior fans", while it is hip and correct to be a junior supporter. In reality, I think there are two camps, of more or less the same size. What's more interesting, as far as I have seen there isn't an age divide here either. There are senior cricket fans who are for the induction of youngsters and young fans who are die-hard senior fans. The converse is true as well.

Anil Singh said...

@ VM

Very well said VM, to be frank though, I've similar thughts in my mind; it's you who has expressed them better :)

Very well said VM

Soulberry said...

Bravo! This is a most telling post and a fabulous cartoon. Well said.

We are still a feudal society in many ways...youngsters have their place and space...they just have to stick to it.

I don't say I agree with that but don't be surprised if that feeling comes around at times.


Excellent read just before pushing off to work.

straight point said...

well well well...as expected quite varied responses and feedback...

thanks AB for converting my simple question into beautiful post and cartoon...only the way you can...

here my two cents...

1. performance should be the sole criteria...no doubt about it...

2. by this waugh, gm, warne should never have retired...coz wagh saved the last match he played...GM and Warne has shown enogh in IPL to suggest they are still best around...

3. one should also have a sight of long term goals...you can go on forever for short term gains...and solution...

4. change is inevitable...good or bad only time will tell...one should not fear the failure...sports is never played for the fear of failure...

5. young ones have right to fail too...and no one can deny that...ganguly is the testimony of this fact otherwise the way he debted against oz he should have never wear indian cap...

6. we can only know they are ready or not...only and only when we will throw them in heat...rest is all speculation...pro or against whatever...

7. all good things comes to an end...

8. india has history of players going down till the last thread...only gavaskar was the exception...he bid adieu when people were asking why...rather than why not...

we have already seen srinath losing his prime years coz of kapil bahi had to get hadlee's record...

9. which brings me to say that when is the ideal time to introduce a young one...when he is at his prime and expecting...or what?

10. who's 40 runs you value more...
from a pro or from rookie...coz thats what our fab four averaging collectively for past year or so...remember i said YEAR not only one series...

having said that

i agree that sweeping changes are not required at the moment...every possible effort should be made for their fitting farewell...permitting they willingly agree...which again i doubt coz of history...

at the end remember there are no free lunches in this world senior or junior...

phew...

Anil Singh said...

@ Soulberry

Thank you for the praise, it's indeed a great motivation for me.

You brought an entirely fresh thought to the discussion

"We are still a feudal society in many ways."

On some prodding over: it seems it's true; we actually are a feudal society. And this trickles down not only to our families, but to our education system, to our sports(even a paid ex Indian cricket coach was made a guru and all the players his chelas)and to all aspects of our lives.

From the responses got so far, the Indian cricket scenario looks to be a divided camp :)

Anil Singh said...

@ SP

The thought--behind this post was special; and that belongs to you I just put it on BCC!'s homepage.

Like you, I'm also surprised to see such a clear and equal division.

In addition,the sheer variety and novelty of thoughts the esteemed readers brought is marvelous !

I think it'll be better if we call your response the one addressing both the rival camps--pro Senior and pro junior.

and I can't say much :)

straight point said...

thanks AB!!

the basic idea of the post was not to see the division...but to ask one humble question...why the intentions are doubted...? and i afraid the questions still stands...

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the kind words, AB and for starting a great thread.