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technically speaking...

by straight point

according to this report on cricinfo... rick parry, the chairman of uk commission, set up for gambling-related corruption believes there is not enough evidence against mazhar majeed, this was further proved by majeed being granted swift bail...

rick parry observes...

"I don't think [the case] has any evidence at all," said Parry. "Unless the News of the World placed a bet - which would be highly unlikely because in so doing they would have carried out a criminal act - then there doesn't appear to be any betting activity at all associated with these particular allegations. It places the ball, to pardon the pun, squarely back into the hands of the cricket authorities."

NOTW cannot be charged as they did not place the bet... their lawyers would have taken care of that prior to the sting...

by the same token as the bet was not placed... this weakens the charges against majeed to the extent that it can't be proved in court...

so correct me if i am wrong...

as no bet was placed... what have asif, aamir and butt been suspended for...? for bowling no balls...?

since when has bowling a no-ball attracted suspension...?

10 comments:

achettup said...

I am becoming increasingly disappointed by the manner of these articles. If you are going to pick on the ACSU for not doing a good job, why should that necessarily mean you are willing to ignore what is a quite obvious act that demonstrates what they can do at the behest of a bookmaker. The charge is conspiracy to defraud bookmakers, and Amir, Butt and Asif have been suspended by the ICC for the alleged collusion with Majeed, NOT for merely bowling no-balls. Of course you know this and of course you've called the post "technically speaking" but the implicit message you are passing is that the ICC has nothing to punish them by so they must be innocent.
What I find ironic is you deliberately choose to miss the wood for the trees but put up a post with a blindfold on Ijaz Butt who is demanding evidence. I'm really at a loss to understand where all this sudden change in stance is coming from? The english press squealing in delight at catching the "pakis" red-handed? Subcontinental brotherhood? Racist motivations by other bloggers? Its time to step back from this pointless nitpicking and see the case for it really should be - an eye opener of just how much corruption is going on in the game. Why is this series continuing? Why have Butt, Asif and Amir REALLY been suspended when the PCB was initially adamant they would stay.
The most apt example is how you missed the gist of Prem Panicker's blog by nitpicking on a totally irrelevant point and ignoring the larger issue of how the administrators could be just as complicit.

straight point said...

you have obviously missed the sarcastic tones of this post ach...

it is not too en-cryptic too...

the major conspirator was let off so easily on bail... notw can not be charged... it is yet to be proved the no balls were deliberate since this the the last thread bare the case hinges upon...

why only players are suspended... coz we can...?

straight point said...

regarding prep panicker blog i would have loved had you placed this comment where it was posted...

and please tell me where is this rule written that if one can make toon on kalmadi on cwg games he can not make fun of government or media opposing it...? :)

achettup said...

SP, read the last sentence in my first paragraph. I have understood what you are trying to say too well... as reinforced by your first comment. Considering it took you this long to dig up the quotes in this article, I presume you haven't heard how the currency notes match yet?
Sorry SP, but I saw no reason to post a comment there. Sometimes it is better to say nothing, right? But let me say this. I didn't say that there is a rule which says you can't contradict yourself, I said I found it ironic.

straight point said...

ach... by same token can't it be me exploring all angles rather than naming it 'contradiction'...?

in fact, indirectly and may be un-knowingly, PP has blown the very existence of acsu... by saying they deploy the inspectors before the 2-3 months deadline of the series... which is why i highlighted it...

so what part of my blog on PP you don't agree with... me nitpicking on acsu or the working of acsu itself...? i would like to know...

straight point said...

Considering it took you this long to dig up the quotes in this article, I presume you haven't heard how the currency notes match yet?

you and me are following this spot fixing in terms of chronology of events that are being placed in front of us in media...

now correct me if i am wrong...

notw does a sting operation... majeed accepts money... players bowl no ball... pak asks for proof... next day comes the news trio are called back.... then comes icc suspended them and then this story of currency notes...

now tell me hasn't it looked good for icc and all of us if the last two event swapped places in occurrence...?

achettup said...

SP, as you know my opinion of the ASCU is similar to yours. All I was saying is that the point you raised seemed like you were nitpicking at an irrelevant point in PP's blog compared to the overall context. Whether the ASCU is good at what it does or not, the BCCI's contradictory stand of first not wanting their services and then agreeing at the very last minute is what should raise eyebrows. So the point is, PP didn't say that the ASCU were the paragons of prevention of cricket corruption, in that article what he was getting at was how we ignore the possible roles of cricket officials. But you chose in your post to pick only on the fact that he said the ACSU claim they need 2-3 months to prepare for a series.

straight point said...

exactly my reason to highlight that very section of PP... coz like you i share my opinion of acsu... infact i was the first one to raise what acsu were doing before anybody...

also i would advise you the homer's link that i have updated in my post to give you an alternate view point on same incident of bcci 'delaying' it...

the fact of the matter is as i have put in comments at sp is... in this times putting doubt on every action of any organization is very easy when we as reader want to believe in it... otherwise how come an incident of spot fixing which has nothing to do with bcci attracts an epic post on bashing the same... this is my opinion... however you can disagree with completely which again won't be completely wrong either...

achettup said...

We shall agree to disagree then. I cannot see any point discussing this if the primary motivation is to say everything is done with the aim of bashing the BCCI, who while not always deserving of it, have done plenty that deserves condemnation. If spot-fixing paves the way for a discussion of a more transparent BCCI, which a former honorable president promised when taking up that position, I'm all for it, irrespective if people feel they have an obligation to go out of their way to protect the institute's name simply because they are from the same country.

straight point said...

why we always have to link nationality with every comment or observation or opinion we take...

for example... if tomorrow i bash bcci for some reason won't i be indian then...?

anyways i feel we are diverting big time from the scope of this very post... :)