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One Year, One day – The micro-miniskirt view
by Raja Baradwaj
Post the miniskirt view appeared, there have been a flurry of comments. Wasim & Q tried dissecting the miniskirt for a better view, here I am with some more statistics to support what I posted yesterday.
To start with let us see what our experts said…
1. Your post shows only the % of matches Pakistan played against the minnows…
2. 2008 was an unusual year for Pakistan because not many countries came in to play cricket here…
3. If a team can lose to Bangladesh / Zimbabwe they sure would lose to Pakistan…
4. You say Pakistan top the % wins table but conclude they didn’t play good cricket…
5. If you take the minnows match off the Pakistan list, why don’t you do the same for the other countries also…
6. Pakistan beat India in a tournament final some while ago, does it count here?
So gentlemen the numbers again…
Before we get in there, I apologise for having left Sri Lanka out of the analysis yesterday. And for having termed the sheet a comprehensive list of full member nations. I am sure the Sri Lankan supporters (if any) would be more peeved now, for showing these figures than they were yesterday.
What do we see?
a) ODI record for a year, dating back from their latest ODI appearance (3rd ODI in Abu Dhabi has not been taken into consideration)
b) The results against the minnows, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Hong Kong, Scotland, Kenya, Ireland, Bermuda have not been considered as long as the stronger team won it. In some cases where the minnows won (New Zealand – Bangladesh) the results have been included
c) Another addition to the sheet is the % matches played at home
The numbers say…
1. Even after discounting the minnows record, we can see that Pakistan have played cricket, 9 matches to be precise. As opposed to 13 by South Africa. Not bad at all if you asked me
2. When the minnows go out, Pakistan have a 56% win record, again not bad if you saw this in isolation but if you look at it in conjunction with what we call the top teams have, then the story is different.
3. If you look at the % of matches lost, then Pakistan are near the top. Only West Indies and Sri Lanka beat Pakistan here.
4. If you look at the % of matches each team played at home, you can see that more teams have toured Pakistan for a ODI series than they came to India, Sri Lanka & New Zealand.
My take…
The table above has the list of matches all the other teams played in their last one year, with the exception of the matches against the minnows.
Pakistan beating India in the Asia cup finals have definitely been taken into consideration.
Many countries didn’t tour Pakistan, therefore they didn’t play enough cricket: This according to me would be the biggest farce the Pakistani cricket establishment has been propagating in the last year or so. Their good friends at ICC – India & Sri Lanka also have not got many teams coming in to play cricket in their soil. But the difference why they played more is because they toured more. I am not sure why Pakistan didn’t tour enough.
If a team can lose to Bangladesh / Zimbabwe I am sure Pakistan could beat them: One look at the % of non minnow matches lost makes me think otherwise. As Sidhu would say “If ifs and ands are like pots and pans, there would be no tinkers”
With this, I am sure the debate would get bigger & better, keep it coming folks. Interesting times ahead for statistics & Pakistani cricket (let’s hope).
PS: The data used came in from the great guys, cricinfo. Apologies for not having credited them yesterday, I should have.
One year, One day – The miniskirt view!!
When Navjot Sidhu said “Statistics are like miniskirts, they reveal more than what they hide”, he didn’t know that a lots of South Indians especially the Tamils were going to hate him for life. For, he revealed our best kept trade secret. We Tamils love statistics (Maths, in general) as much as we like miniskirts, the arousal factor is why.
I should thank Soulberry, Straight Point and Naked Cricket (arousal factor, remember!!) for making me look at the statistics. For one moment I thought I had my foot in mouth, having filed the story. But then Q was a bit reassuring, to say that I wasn’t wrong but absolutely off tangent!! I thought why not look into the miniskirt, err statistics? May be there was another interesting / revealing angle there?
So here I am with some interesting numbers.
Stats thanks to cricinfo
What do we see?
1. The matches each team played, the wins, losses, matches without any results
3. Their Win – Loss ratio with respect to the total number of ODIs played, when they batted first and when they batted second
Takeouts
a) Number of games played:
b) Number of Wins
Overall
Aussies have a 76% win record. Then come the Springboks, the black caps and the Indians
c) Number of loses
As expected it is West Indies & England who occupy the top of the table (for once they would be happy they are on top)
Surprisingly
d) Run rate
Aussies have the third lowest of run rates, but still have a better win – loss record. Do we remember the hare & the tortoise story?
e) Batting 1st (Vs) 2nd
It doesn’t matter if
The Pakistan conundrum
Coming back to the Pakistan story
1. Did they play as frequently as anybody else did?
2. Did they actually play good cricket before?
Intikhab Alam I think could prove to be the missing link the Pakistani team lacked. I am sure Q (and all the bored members) would agree when I say he is more a Javed Miandad type of coach – The hands on variety, but more savvy and noble (a Muhammad Ali as opposed to a street fighter). But he certainly is not the Chandu Borde of Pakistani cricket, before a Kristen is found. I am sure he would certainly change the complexion of Pakistani cricket if the establishment doesn’t change its.
A different tangent again
Do cricketers really bother about their cricketing careers?
That is another post by itself. I think they care a sweet fudge all, what matters for all of them is whether their cash register is ringing or not.
Do you think Mohd. Asif thinks cricket gives him a better kick than the other substances do for him to appeal again??
Do you honestly think Symonds thought of quitting cricket when he came back from fishing?
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